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Author Topic: The Rock Trading www.therocktrading.com : Selective Scam (truffa)  (Read 586 times)
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October 09, 2018, 08:43:23 PM
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The Rock has other customers accusing them of being a fraud, retaining their money or of adopting bad practices. These complains have more than 3 months:

http://bittrust.org/service/the-rock-currency-exchange:
"Davide Barbieri - October 29, 2017
It's a fraud."


https://www.coinstaker.com/bitcoin-exchanges/the-rock-trading-review/
"Suffering
Only problem being when you cash out your money never arrives. Waiting for more than three weeks now. Here’s to hoping they ran into a technical issue and it will be resolved.
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1 year ago"

https://www.cryptocompare.com/exchanges/the-rock-trading/overview
"cryptorumblefish
3 months ago
Is this already closed?"

"sygma0
1 year ago
The Rock doesn't send any email notification for account creation, documents received, verification, ...
Since they don't look professional, I asked them to close my account but they said they can't delete my documents because they are handled by a third party !
This exchange sucks and will probably shutdown soon."

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October 10, 2018, 03:55:07 AM
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 3 possible solutions to solve your problem:

1) Fast one: Provide documents requested and, if you are the owner of the account, you'll solve it in one or 2 business days

2) Between 3 months to 6 months: Contact all the authorities you indicated and, if you are the real owner of the account, as soon as they'll provide us your identity, we will unlock your account. From our side, possible defamation lawsuit against you

3) Between 6 months and few years (italian justice timing): Keep on defaming us, wait few months before contacting authorities, contact them and as soon as they'll provide us your identity, we will most likely start a defamation lawsuit against you.

It is your choice.......  of course, if you are not the real owner of funds, all this is quite understandable.

So, regardless which point you'll decide to follow, we will get your identity in order to be compliant. As simple as that.

Thank you!

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October 11, 2018, 12:44:14 PM
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3 possible solutions to solve your problem:

1) Fast one: Provide documents requested and, if you are the owner of the account, you'll solve it in one or 2 business days

2) Between 3 months to 6 months: Contact all the authorities you indicated and, if you are the real owner of the account, as soon as they'll provide us your identity, we will unlock your account. From our side, possible defamation lawsuit against you

3) Between 6 months and few years (italian justice timing): Keep on defaming us, wait few months before contacting authorities, contact them and as soon as they'll provide us your identity, we will most likely start a defamation lawsuit against you.

It is your choice.......  of course, if you are not the real owner of funds, all this is quite understandable.

So, regardless which point you'll decide to follow, we will get your identity in order to be compliant. As simple as that.

Thank you!

The Rock CFO just confessed publicly:

I) I won't, but they wrote that even if I sent my documents, they would still have to decide if the account was mine. They would invent another of their pretexts to say it isn't and keep my money.

II) Even if they had 100% certainty that the money is mine, they intend to keep my money FOR GOOD under the pretext that they have to be "compliant" with an invented applicable European Law that they know isn't applicable, since Directives only apply to States and not to private persons.

III) They claim wanting me to go to the italian authorities but they are threatening with a pathetic law suit if I go. Clearly, they are afraid of their authorities. They are just bluffing.

But they expect bitcoiners will believe that what they are doing isn't a scam.

They are destroying their reputation on their own.


PS. Search exceptio veritatis. And you are defaming me by saying that I'm a hacker who hacked my Rock account.

Until you recognize, clearly and without reservations, here or by email, my ownership of my money we won't have nothing meaningful to say. All evidence confirm that you are trying to scam me.

Yes, this will drag on for months, but in the end the police/criminal court will force you to return my money. So, you'll end with nothing beside all this free publicity and the jail time you'll get for fraud and embezzlement.

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October 11, 2018, 01:09:28 PM
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Never said you are an hacker  Wink Always said we need to verify if you are the owner

So, please, procede with option 2 or 3

Thank you!!


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October 11, 2018, 03:41:55 PM
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If you think you'll walk without punishment after all you done when I complain to the police you are delusional. Consult a good lawyer.

If you weren't scamming you wouldn't keep raising absurd suspicious about my ownership.

This won't end without as a first step my ownership is completely settled, by the passing of time without any other claim but mine plus all the irrefutable evidence I have or by your clear recognition.

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October 13, 2018, 11:45:16 AM
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October 14, 2018, 06:25:14 PM
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That scammer wont recognize that you are the legit owner unless under very pressure or they will lose the last excuse they have to keep your money. He even confirmed he is going to keep it forever because you are refusing to comply with a verification they say isnt mandatory. What a surprise. I forgot to reward the scammer for his scamish practices of creating an alt account and paying members to post on his defense.
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October 14, 2018, 08:07:14 PM
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3 possible solutions to solve your problem:

1) Fast one: Provide documents requested and, if you are the owner of the account, you'll solve it in one or 2 business days

2) Between 3 months to 6 months: Contact all the authorities you indicated and, if you are the real owner of the account, as soon as they'll provide us your identity, we will unlock your account. From our side, possible defamation lawsuit against you

3) Between 6 months and few years (italian justice timing): Keep on defaming us, wait few months before contacting authorities, contact them and as soon as they'll provide us your identity, we will most likely start a defamation lawsuit against you.

It is your choice.......  of course, if you are not the real owner of funds, all this is quite understandable.

So, regardless which point you'll decide to follow, we will get your identity in order to be compliant. As simple as that.

Thank you!

I don't get it.

If he never send fiat only crypto. What the AML/KYC has to do here?

If you need to be sure he is the owner of the account, can't he just send coin from an addresse he use before, like a blockchain proof, this should do the trick from your side right?

Please if my 2 statements are right, let the guy go with his coins and his privacy.

My 2Cts,

Good luck to both part, we are crypto, we can provide other kind of proof. Smiley

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October 15, 2018, 01:30:51 AM
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Thank you for your supporting post.

I still have the account (on a different exchange) from which I deposit (entrapped) XRPs on the Rock after their covert block of my withdrawals.

But they don't want to see any more evidence of my ownership. I actually made a few small fiat withdrawals 5 years ago, when their TOS allowed unverified customers to do them. I still own the banking account used for these withdrawals. But they don't care.

They are assuming two wrong things: that I have something to hide, so I won't go to the police. And that they won't be punished by italian courts. So, they can bluff and appear honest: "please, go to the police".

However, they:
I) Blocked all my crypto withdrawals.

II) Refused several times to explain why, including on this thread.

III) Didn't tell me about the block and let me keep entrapping money with deposits and trading/paying fees for months unaware of the block.

IV) When I complained, they demanded my documents when their FAQ says "verification isn't mandatory".

V) Since I argued this, they eventually said I didn't have to send my documents, but said that my money would be kept blocked "much more time".

VI) When I said I would take this public, they started demanding verification again.

VII) Mandatory verification has no basis on their TOS, so they invented an applicable european directive. But they know very well directives only apply to States in order for them to create legislation. Italy hasn't adopted it yet, so there is no duty of mandatory verification or they couldn't allow unverified accounts in the first place.

VIII) They just confirmed they are going to keep my money for good, even if there is 100% evidence that it's mine.

If I had there 1000 euros they wouldn't be doing this. They are very hoping they will be able to keep my money.

SCAM ALERT: Rock Trading Exchange (www.therocktrading.com): Deceives bitcoiners to create unverified accounts, blocks the withdrawals covertly in order to let the user keep depositing money and uses every pretext to keep it.
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October 16, 2018, 07:16:49 AM
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Coinfan: just out of curiosity: why don't you just go to the police and let them handle the issue?

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October 16, 2018, 12:20:31 PM
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In my country our ID card is a global card with our full id numbers of all public services. It's so danger to give a copy of it that is illegal for any entity to demand it. They can only verify the numbers.

I'll go to the police, but it will be my last option, since I'll have to send them a digital copy of my id card. Who knows how many low officials, secretaries, will handle the copy.

I know a guy who had his life destroyed because of a copy of his id card.

Besides I'm warning the community about them. I Know I won't have patience after this is solved.

But thanks for your interest allyouracid.

SCAM ALERT: Rock Trading Exchange (www.therocktrading.com): Deceives bitcoiners to create unverified accounts, blocks the withdrawals covertly in order to let the user keep depositing money and uses every pretext to keep it.
https://bitcointalk.to/index.php?topic=4975753.0
https://therocktradingscam.home.blog/
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