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September 14, 2018, 01:51:19 PM
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The other problem are these tariffs. A 25% increase in price generally makes these unprofitable at pretty much any residential rate in the US, at least BTC return wise. Feeling very lucky to have found a T2T in my local market for $1300.

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September 14, 2018, 02:03:26 PM
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The other problem are these tariffs. A 25% increase in price generally makes these unprofitable at pretty much any residential rate in the US, at least BTC return wise. Feeling very lucky to have found a T2T in my local market for $1300.

Japan won’t have the tariff.

So gmo may make out.



I won't coach philip but people be careful with credit even in a bull market. Low efficiency units should be striped, sold, or held for bull. If you're in for pure profit you have to flip to highest efficiency. You'll become a decent trader but not a day trader if you're mining power costs.

If you're looking to gear up now? There's the T2T only. I'd jump Oct batch M10 if I was in market and willing to wait though. From the look the value seems to be there it's just hard to speculate beyond very conservative(ly).

I'm stuck with 821's and s9's on moderate power cost. I won't be happy with these come '19. Look to gear up by Nov/Dec or hold out another quarter to two. Small, big mine, doesn't matter.

My m10 comes today.  I paid btc for it.

The T2Turbo is much faster ship time then the m10

I still have zero idea of what the m10 will do.

I will know in a day or two and be able to weigh my next move

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September 14, 2018, 02:26:21 PM
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Japan won’t have the tariff.

So gmo may make out.

Very true, and hopefully Triple-1 turns out to be legit so we have another option among Japanese manufacturers.

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September 14, 2018, 03:05:35 PM
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The other problem are these tariffs. A 25% increase in price generally makes these unprofitable at pretty much any residential rate in the US, at least BTC return wise. Feeling very lucky to have found a T2T in my local market for $1300.

Tariffs have been hit or miss just like typical 3% ish prior. If you're ordering bulk expect to pay it. It you're a consumer not a business on a single unit you'll probably skate by. Still though you never know. I imagine we'll get a lot of quotes till this subsides to forgo our usual customs service at a 25% rate. Then it doesn't really matter with our model.

Is the live video of this still going? I at least saw the UI hashing at 34th/s 22 hours in, hopefully for HF and phil have something great to review.

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September 14, 2018, 04:28:22 PM
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It is up and running!

my meter reads 2283 watts

it does flux up to 2346 watts

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September 14, 2018, 04:30:49 PM
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It is up and running!

my meter reads 2283 watts

it does flux up to 2346 watts

Video video
We want a video
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September 14, 2018, 04:31:59 PM
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Video video
We want a video

I have an  unboxing video, but  camera battery needs recharge for an ops video.

33293 gh and 2346 watts = 70.5 watts a gh

unboxing at https://youtu.be/1dY5-eLuQYA

scroll to bottom of this link to see the hash rate on ck's pool

http://ckpool.org/users/16yLHLoeyuCLPMXkVpC3gyrRYvwRGwjKJr

Code:
{
   "workername": "16yLHLoeyuCLPMXkVpC3gyrRYvwRGwjKJr.m10",
   "hashrate1m": "34.7T",
   "hashrate5m": "25.6T",
   "hashrate1hr": "4.27T",
   "hashrate1d": "192G",
   "hashrate7d": "27.5G",
   "lastshare": 1536943075,
   "shares": 3891140,
   "bestshare": 60894592.0,
   "lns": 3889963.735401265,
   "luck": 1.14,
   "herp": 4416496.939140817
  }

power is now at 2358 watts but hash is over 34th see below



so 2358/34350 = 68.6 watts a th

don't know how long it will work and it is loud but it is a motherfucking monster !

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September 14, 2018, 05:06:59 PM
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Niiicee

Still a long ROI, but that ths/w means it's going to be profitable even if the price is under 4k$, should be able to run at least 2 years
Has to be able to break even by then o.o
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September 14, 2018, 05:28:25 PM
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Niiicee

Still a long ROI, but that ths/w means it's going to be profitable even if the price is under 4k$, should be able to run at least 2 years
Has to be able to break even by then o.o

So far I have yet  to figure how to clock it.

As I always like to be able to slow gear down.

new video


Your video will be live at: https://youtu.be/U7N4YphoaCI

done raw no edits.

opinions so far
33 to 34 th at about  2350 watts = damn!


downside it is hotter then I care for:

 the case is hot
 the psu is hot

I have yet to figure out how to drop it to 30th and lower the watts

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September 14, 2018, 06:48:13 PM
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Cool vids Philip,
I can't wait to have a look at my unit in Monday.  Smiley

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September 14, 2018, 06:55:04 PM
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Cool vids Philip,
I can't wait to have a look at my unit in Monday.  Smiley

yeah it is very impressive right near the 68-70 watt a th mark.

I would love more info on website and to be able to back it off a bit

say 30th and 2000 watts

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September 14, 2018, 06:57:21 PM
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yeah it is very impressive right near the 68-70 watt a th mark.

I would love more info on website and to be able to back it off a bit

say 30th and 2000 watts

Yeah it would be cool if they could make a low-power firmware available, just like they did with the previous model M3X.

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September 15, 2018, 01:41:14 AM
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My Innosilicon T2Turbo was the best miner I ever owned.

But to run it at full speed using 2375 watts I would  get 24th

This burns 2360 watts and I do 34.4 th

So it is basically 10 th for free.

No if I run the innosilicon at balanced I do 19.5th for 1750 watts

This is 15th more for 600 watts.

Really way better then the t2turbo

If you buy three s9js you do 43th for 4450 watts

So for 9.5 th you use 2100 watts.

Cost less say 1500 vs 1800 but 2100 extra watts will eat up that 300 in savings unless you have dirt cheap power.

And we are now in a new world under 70 watts a th.

With multiple companies looking to sell better gear like this I am excited for mining come 2019.

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September 15, 2018, 06:46:27 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7N4YphoaCI

sry for stalking you Cheesy
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September 15, 2018, 06:51:04 PM
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Its fine.  I have to post a new video  I managed to make sound okay  with this material


https://www.homedepot.com/p/UltraTouch-48-in-x-6-ft-Radiant-Barrier-30000-11406/100656748


34th and not  really too loud using it.

If they  have a quiet firmware dropping to 30th and letting fans  drop to 3000 vs 5000  it would be really good.

I will do a sound video showing the sound proofing.

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September 15, 2018, 09:56:30 PM
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I guess this is your new video?

https://youtu.be/KsdRuglODsk

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September 15, 2018, 09:57:57 PM
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I guess this is your new video?

https://youtu.be/KsdRuglODsk

It is not that  it is this one

https://youtu.be/RuPXBR4Zi_U

So I got gear to be pretty quiet 45db to 48db while I sit in the basement den.

Later in the week I will fire up the T2turbo.

I should get 19.5 + 34.5 = 54th  for 2 units using only 4100 watts

you would need 4 s-9's using 5600 watts.

but 3500 vs 2000 for the gear.

If I had 4 of these at the solar array  I would do 136th at  9400 watts that is around 69 watts a th

It may do 138 th at 9400 or 68 watts a th

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September 17, 2018, 03:20:40 PM
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Status update:
My M10 unit just arrived.  I will start making the review and post it in the hardware subforum as soon as possible. Smiley


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September 17, 2018, 03:27:25 PM
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Awe, snappity, snap!

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September 17, 2018, 03:36:46 PM
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Looks like specs are similar to the T2Turbo+32T.
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